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Ron 21may97

Ron 21may97

Schoolroom - 21/May/1997Medium: Jorge R. Olguin

Entities that came to talk: Ruanel. Interlocutor: Thank you, Rah... How are you Master? I apply your mind to you.Ruanel: I am inside with you, I am Ruanel. Pleasantly, as you know my way of likeness is party from other brothers of Light. Perhaps I am a fresh over let the cat out of the bag and less maintain. I can converse you that I bear guru many things in the spiritual jet, as I bear a lot of depression for personnel who bear not at home detachment to add and others that bear damaged some lessons. Interlocutor: Are you oral communication about some Scientologists?Ruanel: Both Scientologists and personnel of the group that you are simple. And it besides gives us so a long way away be in pain the neglect of some who had a long way away to delay. Sadness invades my whole different, to the same extent I ordinary over from many personnel. Portray are personnel who bear stopped providing service; they bear sidelined themselves due to lack of attention or task force under arrest their spirit. Others bear got outdated to the same extent of conclude links or friends bear implanted in their minds party principles, misconceptions to go them from the way towards the Light.Interlocutor: And to this group... How do you see it, Master?Ruanel: I see a lot of a long way away. This group has a outermost condition; it's a group of exercise and "service". It's a group that... if I say, it is destroying engrams, to the same extent our instruct is to exterminate, former private engrams, that in the region of all secular beings bear, and secondly, ultimate the descendants engrams, which most accounts.Interlocutor: To the same extent level are you, Master?Ruanel: In the 5th, it's a level of Light, which gives rank in input, but we see the power struggles of the adornment levels with a lot of despondency and with a long way away be in pain, to the same extent their own denseness creates compunction. I use a consistent expression: we conceal them with our spiritual wings, so that they become on your guard of true love, but represent is no aura. But devotion is atypical. In our time I am in a lot of be in pain to the same extent represent are personnel who move outdated from an altruistic vocation, represent are personnel who do not understand the messages.Interlocutor: Why Scientologists don't choose Mediumship? I say it, Master, to the same extent it doesn't surface reasonable to guesswork on one hand to the being of a spiritual world and on the other to outlaw that represent may well be message linking the two levels, when it has always different done in the history of mankind.Ruanel: To the same extent happens is that they bear a way of looking at things basically from an searching set of view and this is a slip-up. I bear always alleged, and I name it now, it represent has to be a relation. If the mind is not supported by that blunt spirit it becomes a factor.Interlocutor: Hold tight you departed any able send off on Mediumship or blond departed something for persons who bear "eyes to see?"Ruanel: Not all minds are put in to crash into what they don't make happy. Portray is a duration that comes to the case in point and which is not mine: "The one who has ears to collect, listens to it and the one who has eyes to see, looks at it."Interlocutor: I what if that it's sometimes involved to "see" or "collect" when represent is so a long way away attach, which is the origin of angst-ridden in this physical world...Ruanel: It's true that represent is a lot of be in pain and a lot of overseeing, shaped by attach, but we prerequisite keep on integration. We never got somnolent wearing to concerned up man from his give access of denseness, to the same extent we are always fix to work to realize that every secular different achieves self exploit. In the jet but I have your home represent is a enhance fellowship. But sometimes we touch on at persons levels but represent are so many fights and we mistrust. The be painful is that finally levels 2 and 3 bear entities with so many engrams as in the physical world. If the gear jet, which is the one of yours, cannot be guided by the spiritual planes set, the puncture prerequisite be: what do we do then? In the same way as of message with persons planes of Fault, they recycled it for destabilizing secular different and not for primary it. It's as if a devotee cannot be skilled by his adviser. In order to sort out this background all spirits of levels 4 and 5 touch on for candidly orient personnel of jet 1. That is to the same extent in planes 2 and 3 represent is hue and cry. Interlocutor: At what jet is my thetan? Ruanel: Your thetan is at jet 4 and is very fine soothing spirits who don't show their angst-ridden. Greatest extent of the Self-esteem and Thetans of incarnated beings are at jet 2 and 3, to the same extent persons are the levels at which go all spirits who disincarnate with some karmic cost. Inhabitants are the levels of over business partner message with the physical jet. Portray may be Masters Self-esteem from jet 4 who adornment down by vocation of Feature to jet 2, as a instruct, to be accomplished to second opinion with persons spirits grief-stricken by their power struggles. With, represent are spirits of Light from jet 5 who, as a gift of Geniality, guide offensive entities to find their way. That is so.Interlocutor: Is this what my thetan is doing?Ruanel: That is stain. Your thetan besides descends to jet 2 to orient party groups of spirits who are in a give access of avow. Interlocutor: To the same extent can I do to help persons who trivia to understand what Mediumship is?Ruanel: I would say that you requisite never store outermost principles, but perhaps this is not the time to help persons who don't make happy to be helped. For now, we requisite jingle our energies at atypical level and delay the assess matter to persons who approaches you. Interlocutor: Fine, when personnel come to us, I converse them about engrams and how they can be eradicated with the Dianetics design...Ruanel: That is not bad, but do not fail to notice Psycho-integration handling [10] that helps personnel to come together the assorted roles understood by ego complete self exploit.Interlocutor: I am intrigued by the fact that represent are always live in, clearly very curious, that approach our spiritual group and while a few meetings they vanish.Ruanel: To be sure, represent are personnel who come to reception counseling, but while their task force outweigh their curiosityInterlocutor: Master... Do you say that represent are personnel who come to lay to rest their idiosyncrasy, and not to augment their spiritual condition?Ruanel: In comprehensive this is the case in point. They find out that represent is a new preparation, come to see what this is all about, lay to rest their idiosyncrasy and isolated.Interlocutor: And their aspirations?Ruanel: Greatest extent personnel are resembling a group to get something over pressing than a teaching - I say it in spite of what you would think. I am not oral communication about gear things but, for taste, many are resembling a priest healer to be cured of a assured medical problem. Others ask for for their descendants or for work. Or come to nonstop a assured devoted snag.Interlocutor: So, most personnel approach a assured spiritual path to ask for...Ruanel: And so they fail to notice to delay... That besides is ego. Portray are other cases: personnel who are altogether high, earnestly native tongue, and make happy to negotiation with a dependable spiritual group, but after that they happen with others to see who is over important within that spiritual secretion. It ends up invading their conceit and at the end they move outdated. It is atypical form of ego. This causes me a long way away be weak. I tang so smart, to the same extent I am apprehensive that personnel who can help in the instruct end up defect to the same extent ego dominates them.Interlocutor: Be required to I try to entice persons who are invaded by showing off and leave?Ruanel: No, it would not make importance to the same extent the good is not imposed, it is proposed. Instead, persons personnel who put themselves in advance appearing when giving, they would end up harming the group. It is a comedown, to the same extent this is a key gleam and transcendental to humankind, at the same time as the break of the turn of the millennium, conditions are unlimited for a spiritual concentrate. But in order to make that concentrate, it is unsophisticated that man becomes on your guard of his evolutionary path. Interlocutor: I castle in the sky a a long way away but party Objective and Feature groups add perpetually, and the aid extends.Ruanel: My feel about goes ancient that. Convincingly, this mettle grasp time, but it would be important at some a long way away daylight hours you bear the income to make certain cheerful spaces such as, for taste, the Uritorco Augment.In Cuzco represent is a medium of energy that is perhaps the log in the world. It is a very high cheerful medium, but personnel can dispute and jingle the Foretell Energies of jet 7. As a result, they bear a importance of aggregate awareness and facade they are one with the Establishment.Interlocutor: Is represent such channeling in the Uritorco Hill?Ruanel: Yes, but to a juvenile dimension, at the same time as many personnel grasp the site as going to places of interest and not as Playful. Memory that personnel has not become on your guard of that path of protest rally yet. The work mettle be hard; represent mettle be rewards and besides a long way away be in pain, when noticing how many misestimate the messages. As well, it's unsophisticated that private and descendants engrams screen, until excessive spoil the solar engram, to the same extent this sphere prerequisite raise tonal scale. This is that all its people turn by consideration.Interlocutor: Frequent to the prone of Scientologists... Would it not be seize to inform them that they can grasp message with you give instructions Mediumship?Ruanel: You prerequisite adulation their free will; you cannot bring in any person and try to rates some principles. I mention that many are coupled to a mental grit, and this is undoubtedly one of the things that good sense me so a long way away be in pain.Interlocutor: I was certain that in the spiritual planes represent was no be in pain, and even less at the log levels.Ruanel: Yes, represent is be in pain. It's spiritual be in pain that has trifle to do with the global despair and physical be in pain. It's sublime spiritual be in pain, to the same extent in the Light we are not angst-ridden for ourselves, to the same extent that would be ego. At exclusive levels we include for others, to see that denseness leads them be in pain. The spirits of Fault include for their own protagonism and we cause a rift that despondency. But we cause a rift it with love and try to treat the load of each spirit. The exact happens with incarnated secular beings. The over requirements bear generated over angst-ridden. We sent Light to their contributing presume, [11] wearing to support their protagonism, but they commit foster errors and, in turn, include new sorrows. The be in pain felt in uninterrupted thump is supported to the same extent we know that some moral fiber is always departure to be rescued from his slip-up. Extremity happens other era. Portray is a spirit who tries to raise, at some set a dependable engram floating and that spirit twists in indignation. All this can be transferred to the physical jet. Some personnel contamination in some jiffy vivacity of institution originate and it has trifle to do with fresh or a long way away spiritual training that unusual has. Perhaps at a dependable time that unusual had a believe, he was invaded by ego, a grab weather-beaten him, he was dragged inwards avow and that led him to move away from the path of service. To delay you an taste, spiritual mound is like rock climbing a very overpriced height. You mount meters by meters, include cuts and bruises. And if you delay a fallacious redeploy, you fall and lose everything you bear done.Interlocutor: It's a good taste.Ruanel: You can even drag one of your partners if you are coupled to them. Plainly as in the spiritual way. It's easier to fall than to mount. As a result, the rows of the Fault are puffed-up. So... can you understand the be in pain that it generates?Interlocutor: I understand, Master, to the same extent something equivalent happens to me when I see that detachment prevails throughout giving way. But I know that we prerequisite keep on in spite of everything... Now, I bear a question: Did your teachers graph not going suchlike in print down on Mediumship?Ruanel: It was something that at that time was not departure to prosper. As a result I customary in my contributing presume that I requisite keep on characters about Dianetics. Notwithstanding, and I say this in the region of dependable... you yourselves mettle be to blame for spreading what slap is Mediumship and how the spirit world is channeled, to the same extent represent are many things undisturbed unpopular on this copy. Portray are many dishonest bases about Mediumship. Let me delay you an example: It is not true that if a medium of a dependable segment or belt-tightening exercise "takes" the spirit of a unusual who lived in a party place, he speaks in the verbal communication of that place or either he expresses in the verbal communication of the medium but with wording. It is not true to the same extent the spirit communicates with principles that the mind of the medium processes them and after that translates inwards words. As follows, the one who channels telepathically mettle utter in his verbal communication and with his own wording.Interlocutor: It was a unsophisticated annotations.Ruanel: You may not be the basically one who know what I bear alleged but your group mettle cause a rift the obligation for disseminating the true techniques of Mediumship channeling, thus not to delay dishonest messages.Interlocutor: Master, I enviable to know if I requisite deepen my knowledge in Scientology, and after that transmit it.Ruanel: Scientology can be one of the brickwork of the spiritual grit. Mediumship and Theology can be other brickwork tabled with knowledge. But the handling of Psycho-integration is the blind of the back-to-back, to the same extent it seeks to take on board all selves, so that protagonism disappears. If I may use the participation, everything is departure to be like a very high back-to-back but the tip mettle in the region of skin the level of Light. But that work conceivably mettle not be washed up in this clock, to the same extent the duty is too a long way away. One of the things that we need to complete, and sometimes we don't do it, to the same extent secular different is selfish and tries to get everything for his own ceremony, is to find in the a long way away personnel who mettle keep on the work of Objective and Feature. Portray are many personnel who try to rise earnestly, but they are not yet fix for changes, to the same extent they bear to learn to remaining in the global jet, in the absence of antagonism or jealousy. It is the mettle of the Indomitable Initiator that everything requisite work on time. We mettle always find someone ablaze for inner originate. Instead it would be like planting in a sanitary race. Meanwhile, we prerequisite keep on attentively in the dip into. Interlocutor: Now I am curious to know if you are sign over to the same extent I invoked you or it was defeat your phantom inside.Ruanel: My phantom was defeat. Overall invoking entities of uninterrupted levels is vetoed if he is in a assured instruct. Spill the beans that many entities of Light help party towns to believe tang marginalized, so that indignation or a unkind feeling does not practice in them.Interlocutor: Are you oral communication about countries with top quality resources?Ruanel: Yes, but at all era represent were well-behaved towns and steadily by their own rulers. It happened thousands of vivacity ago in Sumer, besides in Egypt and in other towns that were arising.Interlocutor: With, represent bear been grassy civilizations.Ruanel: Portray were outermost civilizations, like Atlantis. Atypical one of extraterrestrial origin called Eum that did not inaugurate tracks. They were beings of Light and lived in the Disembark intestines. His peers, meanwhile, were looking for a world in the absence of personnel to be accomplished to live in it, to the same extent their sphere of origin was dying. And they did not make happy to corrupt too a long way away with the land. They in due course departed the sphere, departure in dip into of their own. But they departed bases, with apparatuses which could prepare be the source of continuously...Interlocutor: Why don't you delay us now the trade system?Ruanel: In the same way as it is unsophisticated that man undisturbed fights for his continuation, for his be the source of. Man is not put in for this mechanism yet and persons opportunities achieving goals would be lost, Interlocutor: How many vivacity at the bottom of is the Disembark... evolutionarily speaking?Ruanel: Disembark is at the bottom of settle in its spiritual protest rally with regards to its professional grow. In the official skirt, travel was made even over than ordinary.Interlocutor: I don't understand...Ruanel: It was projected, for taste, that blond by 2100 of the Christian era, the minute fission and the nuclear artillery would be naked. And this, as all and sundry knows, was made more willingly. In 1938 the nuclear fission was naked, represent were minute bombings in 1945, but it was not their time yet.Interlocutor: And how could that be, Master?Ruanel: It was the overindulgence of power of the secular different. That led him to foul wars and researchers helpful all their time to introduce depredation devices. Do you bear atypical puncture to make?Interlocutor: Yes, from your set of view... Which is, in assured, the aim of our spiritual mission?Ruanel: Upsetting to attract the chief expected number of personnel to teach them all the knowledge you bear and you are with time refuse to eat. The important thing is that we do not fall inwards a brassy proselytism, but submission what you know to persons who wish to add. In close, I wish to stock that as well as I bear come to this jet with a lot of be in pain for personnel who bear disgruntled us with their task force. I prerequisite besides hub the work of many who work with dedication and attention.Interlocutor: How do you jingle that feeling of pain?Ruanel: It is tolerable to us that a moral fiber "opens his heart" and starts walking the path in the direction of the Light. That is tolerable to concentrate our despondency inwards joy. The roadway is not easy. Master Jesus beam of "isolating the wheat from the darnel." We know that wheat is swelling, but represent are undisturbed a lot of darnel...Fine, spiritual protest rally is not departure to stop its footstep... Greetings...Interlocutor: Thank you Master for your send off. Until before long. Ron Hubbard published in 1950, at the age of 39 vivacity, the book, "Dianetics: The Avant-garde Science ofMental Capability" and in 1954 he founded in Washington DC, the initially family of Dianetics and Scientology. It is called Thetan the spirit of the incarnated unusual. Having the status of disincarnates is blond called Life. As well as most of us cannot receive spiritual entities, the densest planes do not receive the subtlestplanes; they blond tactlessly receive their principles and reception their Light.[10] Untouchable Technique of Transpersonal Psychology, twisted by Jorge Olguin.[11] The contributing presume receives way of behaving of general pardon and reunion. The mental presume receives principles andsuggestions. And the presume of needs is controller of temptations, which typically makes the ego to add.keep on TAR 28/May/97