Friday, November 7, 2014

Can The Sria Decide What Golden Dawn Group Is Official

Can The Sria Decide What Golden Dawn Group Is Official
I keep up been arrange a lot about "pop idol" in recent times. Crown, organize is the ordinary show in the EOGD. Once news came out that Robert Zink was chosen out of the EOGD, firm of us came out and siad a few words. David Griffin (HOGD/A he further stated that a new name and system was apparently in order. Bast Place of worship took a vote on it, and decided to continue with our put on strategy of recognition we fix up family, not groups. (Near actually some history ancient times that policy; it allows us to avoid recognizing the bad release eggs in good groups instant allowing us to fix up good pursuit in bad groups.) Needless to say, the Bast Place of worship vote pleased no one edge the whitish of Bast Place of worship. Inclined the news coming out of the EOGD, I would nevertheless vote the extremely way recognition to family and not groups. Zoom, organize is interminably the ordinary negotiations in Yellow Jump about who is bureaucrat Yellow Jump and who is not. A lot of that negotiations depends upon everywhere you disbelieve the roots of Yellow Jump lay, and everywhere you disbelieve it essential be leaving. Needless to say, natives who do not see eye to eye do not fix up one substitute. Third and the concern of this post is a in mint condition blog post about William Coon II, the Model Magus of the SRICF, saying that the SRICF of America and the SRIA of England keep up the reasonable to determine which Yellow Jump Neatness is the "official Yellow Jump." Thumbs up to David Griffin for bringing that one to my inflexibility. [SRICF: Societas Rosicruciana in Civiatibus Foederatis; SRIA: Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia]Do I imagine that Coon alleged that? Yes, I do. Very if this is the extremely William Coon II, who is Impressive Master of the Impressive Encampment of the Knights Templar of the USA. For an example of his fee, whim his notion about substitute group that he whim to be an "incursion of terrority" hazard. The Absolute Priory of America is an unrecognized Templar Neatness effective within the Coupled States of America, in lecture to depart with Part of a set 3 of the Makeup of the Impressive Encampment of Knights Templar of the Coupled States of America. So, membership in the Absolute Priory of America is changeable with membership in the Impressive Encampment of Knights Templar of the Coupled States of America and any Impressive, For children, or Building block Commandery under its keep under control or right and proper liability to the extremely.For more about this moment, ticket out the Freemasons For Dummies blog. Do I imagine that he considers that the Yellow Jump is an "incursion of terrority" threat? Yes, I do.But does the SRIA and SRCIF keep up any reasonable to expert what Yellow Jump Neatness if the "official" Order? In my notion, no. I do understand their logic. Kenneth Mackenzie, Samuel Liddell "MacGregor" Mathers, William Wynn Westcott, and William Robert Woodman were all members of the SRIA. Robert Felkin and Arthur Edward Waite were further members. All the founding members of the basic Neatness, the (best aspiring leader, IMHO, for) founder of the Secret code Content, and leaders of two of the blow apart groups were members of the SRIA. Consistently, eminently if you imagine that Yellow Jump was started out as a fabrication, the parentage of the primitive epoch of Yellow Jump came from the SRIA. Now, Griffin argued against Koon using the official history of the Yellow Jump as his Neatness (HOGD/A&O) tells it. Brusquely, I do not keep up enourgh information to determine whether that history is true or not. But I do keep up enourgh information to fight that the founder of the Secret code Content (who I imagine is Mackenzie) and the three founders of the Isis-Urania (Westcott, Mathers, and Woodman) had no set sights on of making the Yellow Jump blamed to the SRIA. Crown, the Yellow Jump was formed in the course of the growing of the house system in the delayed nineteenth and primary twentieth centuries. Near were Impressive Lodges forming all types of lodges. It was a big incident with masses of outlook members (by incident, I mean that organize is a inevitable economies twisted that are best explained by treating the house system as a type of incident model not all lodges were shaped for draw your attention). Greatest (if not all) Impressive Lodges declared their rule. Zoom, the Yellow Jump sanctioned non-Christians, non-Masons, and women to be members. At the time, these were charter-revoking acts if your group was SRIA and apparently nevertheless are (not individuality a advocate of the SRIA, I am guessing communicate). Third, whether you imagine that the Sprengel letters are bureaucrat or liar, the letters testify us that our roots are in Europe and that the Yellow Jump is on its own we are not of the SRIA, and the parent numeral desires rocket to do with us. One of the purposes of the letters, whether they were shaped by Westcott or actually in print by Sprengel herself, is to put the fee for Yellow Jump internal of Yellow Jump itself. So can the SRCIF and the SRIA issue a judgment and determine who is the "official" Yellow Dawn? Yes...(cue mockery)...but it motion truly be obeyed by the dutiful members of the SRIA and SRCIF. And for me, that is the prime pull the wool over somebody's eyes about Koon's notion about the SRCIF and the SRIA individuality reliable to determine the issue. The truly pursuit who are leaving to curb the way of thinking are (possibly) SRCIF and SRIA members. Oh, and whatever Yellow Jump group that they determine to resolve. Which motion be an all-male, all-Freemason, all-Christian group. In fact, I would be plucky to bet that it motion be the smallest magical of the Yellow Jump Directives. They motion resolve something that is to the point more than a study group with magnitude badges not a solitary advocate motion be reliable to hex their way out of a wet paper bag. The leaders of the SRIA and SRCIF motion resolve the weakest link a Yellow Jump group that is completely no hazard to them. It motion be all about the incident of membership numbers the membership get rid of of the SRIA and SRCIF, not Yellow Dawn's.All the rest of the Yellow Jump community, nonetheless other we do not see eye to eye, no multinational how other we doubt one substitute, no multinational our beliefs about Yellow Jump history, no multinational the differences in our adminstrative structures, motion chortle gone we fastening the official proclaimation and continue to go about our Endeavor. Source line is that the SRIA and the SRCIF notion motion be overlooked by the overall Yellow Jump community (edge of whoever they resolve). Me, David Griffin, Pat Zalewski, Edit Farrell, and Stylishness Cicero motion all normal that the SRIA and the SRCIF keep up no incident shaping how official any of our groups are. I keep up alleged this earlier, and I motion say it again as ache as you and your guy members disbelieve that your group is official, who cares about outsiders and their opinions? I don't and either essential you. Restart to buoy up your dagger thick, your wand lit, your cup fulled, and your pentacle flowered we are all in this together.