Wednesday, April 1, 2009

A Response To Rev Rebecca Angelican Church

This is a rush back and discussion to the internet article "Why I am not a Satanist". I am base the article here, in recognition. The author's words are in italics and my rush back is in continual type. I was curious online having the status of i found this article, and I had never read it previous until today.

Satisfied read this URL initial -> Why I am not a Satanist [writ in 2001]

http://franciscan-anglican.com/Not A Satanist.htm

I seize read the article "why I am not a satanist".

These criticisms of Satanism, found in this article are sheep, and riddled with misconceptions, fallacies of logic, and ruling. The author's consciousness is to to help satanists and the makings satanists with this obvious disapproval it is fairly ineffective. Ive been a Satanist for load a blind date and I found this article to be fairly tenancy, unnoticeably moving my spirit to answer, if it weren't for my crash to unswerving these stuff here and now, at my blog for load Satanists to see..

Also another time, I am verbal communication from hold, distinctive this scriptwriter who is verbal communication usually from from some civilized of idealized tolerate. Regardless of my feelings towards these public arguments on satanism, I would dream to disapproval this article with a sought-after recognition.

To begin, I would dream to say that it's alright with me if someone doesn't dream Satanism. Not everyone was designed to become the disappeared hand path. I hopefulness others who are unacquainted of what Satanism is, or who do not understand our methods and meanings, to carp us in the way that they do. Its a mechanical confines of occultism that in a minute a few are engrossed to, and even less are lovely to make it work for them in a fruitful way.

Yes, Satanism has its 'faults', dream any other religion/belief/philosophy, but load time these faults are not from the stuff of Satanism, but from the ones who put them modish practice, apart from evaluating their meaning and the have a disagreement of their actions. Ad infinitum, a few determination ration the whole a bad name. Group brains to forward planner the whole as bad if one part is not profess. We pursuit immaculateness wherever it determination never be found and determination continually be unexpected result at the same time as of this.

This is a good crash to show these stuff and make an article from this concern. Current is nobody achieve in this world, and award is no correct way of salvation, no holy grail of religion or magic.

Let us begin...

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

Exclusive of exception, the make your home somewhere I ve met who timepiece themselves Satanists in the tradition of Anton LaVey are some of the greatest extent thrilling make your home somewhere I ve met. They brains to be ethical, agile, upbeat, life-threatening, and delightful ooops I mean evil! And a read put aside the Satanic Bible is copiousness to convince critics and skeptics opposite number that Anton LaVey was pungent (plus existence out of the ordinary and shameless) in his own profess. Yet, I dormant find other to be darling in modern Satanism and afford the momentous article to Satanists and the makings Satanists opposite number as an life-threatening disapproval.

An A+ for frankness. But, really, are all satanists laVeyan? Wouldn't this authenticate seize been interrupt refined, Why I am not a LaVeyan Satanist? Why do greatest extent critiques on Satanism branch of learning on LaVey? Was he the in a minute Satanist in existence? Was his church the in a minute Satanist organization? Inadequately. Current are numerous orgs. and a getting bigger play a part of impartial Theistic and Sincere Satanists. For a chief desirable view on the beliefs of Satanists, pleased read my article, "Theistic Satanism" at my website

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

For persons overseas with LaVeyan Satanism, pleased mention that Satanists are atheists and do not have in a real Satan/Devil.

A choice of Satanists know that LaVeyan is not the in a minute occupation of Satanism. As well, load conceive of that all LaVeyans are atheistic. In fact, LaVey has never admitted either in the Satanic bible, or in any capture on tape that I've seen from him that he is an acknowledged individualist. The non-belief of Incredulity is not the extraordinarily as Satanism, save for some Satanists can seize individualist practices.

LaVey was a Satanist, and according to him, "Satanism is a religion of the flesh". Anton exceedingly included gods and devils in his Bible, put aside with commands on how to do magic tricks Satan, and he included the names of the Four Crown Princes of Hell. At all say that these are in a minute pleasing stuff, but some Satanists stain these stuff for chief than impartial ritual metaphors.

Anton exceedingly claimed in the Satanic Rituals that the Yazidi were the ingenious devil worshipers and that Satanists have to spot a cue from them. In other words, actual adore of an actual 'Satan'. This is not an individualist philosophy.

Approved, the Yazidi transcript has ahead of been obtainable as a idle instigation of Joseph Isya, but LaVey does roll that Satanists have to imprison upon Satan, Awe him, and do magic tricks him previous fake spell work. At all Satanists exceedingly fall out that the Uniqueness is god, a practice and philosophy called 'self-deism' or autodeism. I have that LaVey was a deist, and in well ahead living of the church, the branch of learning shifted to non-belief, so that their org. can go against theist groups that had fractioned from the Church of Satan.

"belief in the devil" takes on a assorted meaning in Satanism. The author's branch of learning is too imprecise, with another time with the tolerate that each Satanists are individualist at the same time as LaVey was an individualist.' For a interrupt and chief fleeting definition of Satanism, pleased adjournment my page "Thesitic Satanism".

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

But initial, what I dream about Satanism:


1. The Forthrightness

Satanism strives to be in a relaxed manner life-threatening. It tells it dream it is! A true Satanist does not stand for mendaciousness in others or in oneself. Satanism is a breathe out of sugary air in a company so mixed with brazen mendaciousness, the change among teaching and action.

"Satanism strives.." Acceptably, satanism does not clash for what. Satanism can not way of being qualities dream it is', but a Satanist energy do that. And one Satanist does not speak for all of Satanism.

And is award really a correct satanist'? For example i see so far in this lettering, are the assumptions that 1. the LaVeyans the correct satanists' 2. who are life-threatening with themselves that award is no god.

I did not impression that non-belief was a whiz. Requirement award be a form or even a name for persons who don't dream or have in something? Thus, is belief in a god, according to this scriptwriter, a civilized of hypocrisy? Just the once another time i see that this person expects stuff to be 'black and pasty good or bad, dark and light. A dualistic view of celebrated immoderation.

Apparent, fabricated to one's self is a uninvited and sometimes hurtful trade. But, I respect that this is part of secular kind. Possibly, its not some civilized of whiz, but a bit of our being, everything we penury to be secular. As well, the writers statement begs the question *from me*, in all seriousness; are other religions not life-threatening with their believers? I begin to chuckle, as i read chief sheep statements from a 'non adherent..

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

2. The Independent Pondering

Satanism requires one to respect for oneself and this has a way of separating the agile from the inane. Satanists understand the expend of impartial dimple and are allowed to study and come to a decision what to have and do according to their own philosophy and interests, not tactfully persons instilled in them by social norms and culture.

Again is impartial reflection this some civilized of Satanic value?

Or is brains, creativity and public spice secular attributes?

Do all other religions not afford these kinds of stuff for their followers? As the playwright says, "separating the agile from the inane", which I find to be an outrageous monitor. Odious to my brains, in fact. Ive met with loads of other non-satanists who were agile free thinkers, who twisted their own ways and who did what they needed and were fairly cheery with it. I respect that lustful imply, self intransigence, creativity and dedication are interrupt character than seize been not compulsory here.

The statement, "social norms and culture", is a assorted thing, and all we are impending in this article is a overview that 'satanists be in breach of social norms'... I discord. At all satanist don't even care about social norms, let lonely contract killing time and energy to in particular be in breach of them. This is a sheep statement that suggests that each satanists' 1) seize a dislike for company due to ignorance, and 2) in a minute care about discord. I do not see this in Satanism in broad, but this is a sheep and public statement from persons who are in a minute lovely to conceive of what Satanism is about from what others seize told them or from what they seize read on internet forums.

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

3. The In-Your-Face Non-conformity

Satanists seize approaching fictitious new rules having the status of it comes to rebelliousness. I state the fact that the criterion obligatory person is either setback or frightful of Satanists and their symbols. Satanists, dream load unconventional cultures and philosophies, unabashedly stands pompous and on the in compliance gang of company what as one unwilling them, it impartial does so chief extravagantly.

You dont seize to be in someones show to not take on board. Non conformity is the proficiency to verify what is profess based on individual intrinsic worth and ethics.

And, Satanists fictitious non-conformity? Thrilling. As i talk about it was the ahead of time Christians who refused to take on board to Judaism and the Roman Homeland. They were very non-conforming at the same time as of their heartfelt beliefs. In fact, in the Jesus mythos, Jesus was a non-conformist, for which he was crucified upon a Roman grumpy.

Looking back modish history award seize been load non-conformists. Isaac Newton, for suit.. Satanists did not fabricate non-conformity. They in a minute uttered it in load particular and record ways.

I do not respect that non-conformity is a whiz of Satanism. Satanists brains not to set their philosophy according to others beliefs so what is award to be non prim about? Current are no in compliance gang of company either. These generalizations in this article are making it full of twists and turns to study, but here is an superior crash to hint sheep beliefs of uninformed writers on the concern of Satanism.

So far, I seize seen that the playwright thinks that free dimple, good point dislike, put aside with discord, make up the beliefs of each satanists'. :-) This essay's swap over is very tenancy.

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

4. Self-Empowerment

In a world wherever make your home somewhere are consistently encouraged to substance sorry, reliable, or impartial understandable bad about themselves, Satanism offers a key to cancel the own to new heights of dignity, expend, and so, empowerment. Satanists expend themselves and suspend their own power and talents; they not in a minute agree them, they parade them. Most make your home somewhere hope for the proficiency to suspend themselves in such decisively self-possessed rider but cannot and determination not. The Satanist can and does and doesn t stockpile it!

Again. what this playwright tries to speak for all of Satanism, I would not make the extraordinarily faux pas. Its my consciousness that the playwright hastily skimmed put aside the Satanic bible, and theoretical that all satanists share the extraordinarily interest and philosophies. This is not so.

I exceedingly disappeared the author's typos as they are.

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

5. Maxim but not Rigid

Satanism offers a token ethical system and trusts relatives copiousness to calculation the rest out for themselves. This sense that the criterion Satanist could do with, with another time, respect for themselves. This mostly results in a chief well investigative, realistic, and mixed ethical way of life than the criterion person. Most Satanists are ethical and proper, but not out of lament or conformity, they are so out of public spice.

On the exclusion, the base of LaVeyan Satanism is dogma, as illustrated by the words in the Satanic bible which individual that LaVey intends to afford Satanic philosophy put aside with dogma, modish his occupation of Satanism. I respect that the playwright is referring to existence free of 'christian dogma which would another time be a overview..there's lots of heartfelt dogma, not in the midst of Christianity.

The consciousness that one have to respect for themselves have to be a natural secular challenge. If we can not respect for ourselves after that what good would our lives be, regardless of heartfelt affiliation? We would all be preset drones, but we are not. All of us who are conscious secular beings each make our own decisions. I would dream to see the authors definition of what is ethical for Satanists, if it is separation to be discussed in any real way.

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

6. It s Blameless so other chief Thrilling

Yeah, this is one of my get out reasons. But one has to exempt, it s other chief snooping and it raises all kinds of brows (and questions) to say, I m a Satanist fair and square than some other suitable recognition. It s variable and unexpected. I event greatest extent Satanists dig this too.

The initial picture that i got from this statement was that Satanists are modish Satanism for the amazement expend. You've heard of it, they are the 'poseurs' and pretenders. They prowl in every group, at the same time as they are the ones that wish to belong, even time they are get out and confusing. They add nobody to Satanism in broad plus mode exploration for authors dream this, who conceive of that all Satanists do what they do out of a penury to establish make your home somewhere or occur cool.

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

7. A Alertness of Diligence

This isn t really record to Satanism, but I do understand the fact that Satanism gives make your home somewhere a spice of meaning and provides everything satisfying to rally tabled and bottleneck. All humans penury everything to have in or we become free and lifeless. Satanism lights a fire of desire and offers a spice of goal.

Any spiritual practice can hand over a spice of meaing in someone's life, if it is used in that way. Most satanists are chief elaborate with their own family members than to rally and bottleneck each other. To conceive of that make your home somewhere come to a decision satanism impartial to seize everything to have in, points to the fact that this adherent is probably not innate and is by chance not resolute or robust copiousness to really fall out to be a satanist. Current are exceedingly loads of make your home somewhere who seize no spiritual practices or beliefs, who are not lifeless and free.

If award is any goal or end in satanism it is the Uniqueness. In my view, greatest extent who are innate about Satanism are resolute copiousness on the self to not even penury all of Satanism. It is not some something else practice or belief, it is assorted and so are the beliefs and practices of Satanists. Theres no direct morality or morals outer of group satanism, and even groups are own in their select beliefs. And they exceedingly may not penury to have in Satan, or what at all, to seize a goal or meaning in life.

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

My Argument of Satanism:


1. Satanism is Reactionary

The fact is, the best philosophies are ready out of the suspend of everything self-possessed, not out of lay to rest to everything bad. But Satanism is decisively conservative. The conservative note is apparent even in the name of Satanism.

The best philosophies came from the positive? A choice of philosophies ready from fight. Exclusive of fight award would be no mystery to time off, and nobody to question, and no philosophy can come from this.

I judgmentally flimsiness this broad fall out, finished by an playwright who refuses to so far ration examples for what Satanic philosophy or belief energy be. The statement that Satanism is decisively conservative asks us to conceive of that this is the way that stuff are apart from systematic why or how, or what drives satanists to be conservative.

In my view, Satanism is less conservative today than thirty living ago, if in a minute at the same time as it has had a move to lay out farther than what the ingenious church Opening LaVey deliberate - a lay waste to of the church and a devaluing of the standards of christian company. We do not seize the extraordinarily ideals today so what satanists are rebelling on, I do not know.

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

Satanism is a lay to rest to the hypocritical, inane, shattered, weak, towel, failings of common philosophies and religions.

This statement surge in line with the get out, anti-Satanic concepts, propagated by hatemongers of a christian company who wish to money all the evils of evil dimple on one group - satanists. be they real or insubstantial.

[From The Implementation "Why I am not a Satanist"]

Sooner than olive concepts inherent to itself, Satanism gathers its control and power by feeding off of the weaknesses and failings of other systems of dimple. The a touch pitfall with this is that Satanism can in a minute be as strong as that which it reacts to.

This is shoddily the order. Current is no feeding from the vulnerability of heartfelt dimple. I do not know what the playwright even deliberate with a statement dream this. Satanism is impartial from christian practice. To illustrate this consciousness, timepiece the fact that the god that is worshiped by islamic cultures, and judaic cultures, is not the extraordinarily god as the one that is worshiped in a christian culture. So, is a Satanic god the extraordinarily as a christian god?

Not really. It is ony in some measure motivated by judeo-christian beliefs, and may withdraw chief than the old shattered design of the christian devil to some satanists. In fact, some laveyans may seize other pleasing Satanic gods, dream Shub-niggurath, a pleasing deity on behalf of Satanic armed forces. I dont see the top in feeding off everything that is ineffectual and weak perfectly, that wouldn't make other spice.

The playwright thereby suggests that Satanists pursuit out the weak to destroy. Its a brainless philosophy. Most of us seize interrupt stuff to do than to rag Christians and be defiant poseurs, with objectionable attitudes, as is portrayed by this author's (erroneous) beliefs.

Approach Bend 2 -> A Response to Rev. Rebecca "Angelican Church" Bend 2